The Vampire Strikes Back

[vovat]

1. I've been thinking about the two conflicting hardcore fan stereotypes, one being the fan who automatically likes everything associated with his or her fandom, and the other being the one who hates everything new. While these two might seem contradictory at first, I think that many fans actually incorporate a little of both. For instance, we all know I'm a big Oz fan, and I'm often more willing to forgive poor editing or weak plotting in Oz books than in others (especially considering that most new Oz books are labors of love anyway). At the same time, though, I'm pretty likely to notice what I consider to be out-of-character moments or contradictions of what came before, and complain about them. I won't pretend that my experience is typical, but maybe this helps explain why you'll get people who will, say, watch anything with "Star Trek" or "Star Wars" in the name, even though they seem to hate all the new stuff.

2. I understand that vampires are currently in vogue among the ladies, who for some reason want to have sex with the blood-sucking undead. Perhaps these fangirls should be reminded that some of the earlier vampire myths involved the Romanian strigoi:



And even in the twentieth century, there was Nosferatu:



Somehow I don't think hack Mormon writers would be too likely to want to marry off their Mary Sues to either of these guys. They probably don't keep sweet at all! Seriously, though, I've heard that a large part of the vampire fetish comes from the desire for bad boys, which someone like me would find rather distasteful anyway.

3. Speaking of bad boys, are pirates still in style? Or did the news a few months ago about REAL pirates ruin it for everyone?

Comments

[suegypt.livejournal.com]

Girls swooning over vampires is all about dangerous sex, and even, the danger OF sex. About wanting something that is anything but boring. It's about wanting a dangerous creature to crave you to the point of killing you. And, it's about wanting something you can never really possess. We are talking young fantasies here, at least mostly.

For some of us, when sex turns familiar and pedestrian, it's still pretty good, but hey, where's the harm in a little fantasy?

[suegypt.livejournal.com]

Oh, and as for pirates, meh

[vovat.livejournal.com]

What about ninjas?

And how could a vampire get an erection anyway?

I've got a FANG.... I've GOT a fang...

[suegypt.livejournal.com]

See, that's part of the editing of prepubescent fantasies, and I think part of why Anne Rice made her vampires without genitalia. Zipless fuck syndrome. As in, if he could kill you with his mouth, who needs a penis?


Ninjas? {yawn}

Re: I've got a FANG.... I've GOT a fang...

[vovat.livejournal.com]

What about vampire ninja pirates, then? With eyes that shoot lasers! Riding on dinosaurs!

Re: I've got a FANG.... I've GOT a fang...

[suegypt.livejournal.com]

vampire ninja pirates

How could you get to the sex part with so much going on! Oy, the costumes, the pointy things, ow! the nunchuks!

[poisonyoulove.livejournal.com]

That's the thing that doesn't quite fit about vampires . . . on one hand, the way you turn into one is by drinking their blood. So they have blood, but it's not supposed to be flowing? Vampires in Joss Whedon's mythos can have sex.

[rockinlibrarian.livejournal.com]

I always kind of understood it to be that vampires drink blood to keep up their OWN internal blood supply, which would indicate that they HAVE blood, it's just in danger of drying up quickly.

[bethje.livejournal.com]

Totes. Check this.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/207128?

I never had an interest in vampires. Neither sexy nor otherwise. I think it's kinda goofy.

[suegypt.livejournal.com]

vampires never worry about Social Security or knee replacements. That's almost irresistible to us

Hahahahahahahaha!

And the bit about a woman thinking it's going to be the best sex she's ever had, i think it's a little bit of her thinking "it's the last sex she'll ever have."

[poisonyoulove.livejournal.com]

What are you talking about? That Romanian strigoi is HOT! ;-P

I think the whole Twilight thing is different than a lot of other vampire mythos. Those fangirls seem to want not a bad boy, but a controlling obsessive guy, who sparkles. But then, I haven't actually read the books.
I dig vampires and pirates, not to the point of fetishizing, though. It's about the fantasy, the romanticized adventures one can never have in real life.

[vovat.livejournal.com]

Why does EVERYTHING have to sparkle when it gets marketed to girls?

[rockinlibrarian.livejournal.com]

That it why I have never personally liked vampires.