Life in Unfairyland

[vovat]

Since we've already covered some of the major differences between Oz and other fairylands, what about between fairylands and the Great Outside World? [1] The early Oz books seemed to suggest that magic wouldn't work in civilized countries. Dorothy's Silver Shoes fall from her feet at the end of the first book, and Glinda indicates in Ozma of Oz that the same thing would happen with the Magic Belt, and possibly Tik-Tok as well. But in Road, we're introduced to the Love Magnet, which appears to be equally effective in the United States, the fairy countries surrounding Oz, and Oz itself. Perhaps it's no coincidence that Road is also partially a crossover with some of Baum's other fantasy work, some of which made the dividing line between magical and non-magical countries much more vague. In John Dough and the Cherub, for instance, a gingerbread man is brought to life by an Arabian elixir in an American city, and the elixir's original owner uses magic powders provided to him by a witch (presumably still in the United States) to chase after John Dough. Baum's American Fairy Tales also has magic and magicians working in the States, and while these stories were never officially tied in with Oz or its borderlands, the presence of Ryls and Knooks in both suggests some likely connection. Ruth Plumly Thompson continued and expanded the trend of magic working in civilized lands as well, although she still subscribes to the idea that there's some difference between fairylands and ordinary countries. In Gnome King, Ozma transports Polacky the Plunderer's gold to Philadelphia with Peter Brown, but only the two sacks of "real" gold (presumably meaning gold that came from the Outside World) survive the trip. [2] Yet, in Jack Pumpkinhead, it's revealed that one of the sacks is magical [3], as is the one remaining coin in it. There's no clear indication as to whether the sack's magic would be effective in the States, but the coin's definitely is.

In the earlier drafts of John R. Neill's first Oz book, Wonder City, he described a fairy society in the mountains of northwestern New Jersey (where he himself lived). While most of the details didn't make it to the published version, he still had Jenny Jump (a resident of the mountains that bear her name) granted fairy powers by her leprechaun godfather. Pretty appropriate for today, huh? Considering that Jenny is described as having red hair and green eyes, Neill might well have thought of her as being of Irish ancestry (as was Neill himself). While never officially confirmed, I think there's a decent chance that the Wizard of Oz is at least part Irish as well.

[1] Actually, Baum's use of the term "Great Outside World" could be a bit ambiguous, as it sometimes referred to anywhere outside of Oz, and other times just to the civilized, non-fairy countries. Still, I much prefer it to Thompson's usage of "real world."
[2] It's possible that this was intended to tie in to the statement that Dorothy never brought any gold or jewels back from Oz after her first few visits, even though one emerald might well have paid off the mortgage on Uncle Henry's farm.
[3] In fact, it's a Grab Bag, which grabs enemies and keeps them trapped until they're shaken out. From what little I know of Dungeons & Dragons, it sounds like a Bag of Holding is fairly similar.

Comments

[billiedoll.livejournal.com]

Baum has Glinda refer to Trot and Cap'n Bill as "earth people" in "Scarecrow of Oz" suggesting that Oz is truly a different world, rather than an isolated and more magical piece of our own.

And as an occasional D&D player, a bag of holding is usually reserved for holding equipment. Characters or monsters held in the bag will begin to suffocate after 10 minutes, according to the Dungeon Master's Guide.

[vovat.livejournal.com]

Baum has Glinda refer to Trot and Cap'n Bill as "earth people" in "Scarecrow of Oz" suggesting that Oz is truly a different world, rather than an isolated and more magical piece of our own.

Yes, I remember the term "earth person" being used other times as well. But there are also suggestions that Oz is physically located on our Earth, so it's ambiguous.

Characters or monsters held in the bag will begin to suffocate after 10 minutes, according to the Dungeon Master's Guide.

Well, living beings put into the Grab Bag will apparently last there indefinitely, although Belfaygor DID lose his enchanted beard upon coming out.

[vilajunkie.livejournal.com]

What makes you think the Wizard is Irish too? By the way, you should have done a bio on either Jenny or Sico Pompus today! *g*

[vovat.livejournal.com]

What makes you think the Wizard is Irish too?

Well, Maguire explicitly defines him as such in Wicked, and while I'd be the first to declare that his works aren't canonical, it did get me thinking about whether Oscar Diggs could be as well. "Diggs" sounds kind of Irish, and he mentions having visited Ireland in Emerald City. His multitude of middle names might well suggest a multitude of different ancestral countries, though, just as Button-Bright's might. (Speaking of which, one of the contestants in this year's American Idol is called Von Smith. Someone should ask him if his family has ever had a magic umbrella. {g}) Incidentally, I've heard that the original stage play of Wizard had the Wizard played by different ethnic comedians, which probably meant Irish at times, but not exclusively.

And I might well go on to discuss Jenny and/or Siko later today.

[ozma914.livejournal.com]

Don't forget the story in which Dorothy was transported to California, and immediately grew to her real "outside world" age. It makes you wonder what else would revert to its non-magical condition if taken out of Oz.

[vovat.livejournal.com]

On this same trip, however, Dorothy has wishing sand that brings a dummy to life, and brings her back to Oz and her usual age. If she hadn't had that, I wonder if she would have stayed grown up upon returning to Oz.

[ozma914.livejournal.com]

That's a very good question. I don't think I'd have liked having a grown up Dorothy, although that would have been fine for the slash fanfic writers.

[vovat.livejournal.com]

Maybe Pastoria could have gotten her pregnant, like in Oz Squad. {g}

[ozma914.livejournal.com]

*blinks* I thought I'd seen all of Oz Squad. I take it I missed some issues?

[vovat.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I don't remember reading that in Oz Squad either, but I seem to recall seeing it mentioned in a description of the comics. Or maybe I dreamed it.

[ozma914.livejournal.com]

They say when you start dreaming about a fandom a lot, you need to back off and take a break! :-)

[vovat.livejournal.com]

I don't know. I actually wish I had more Oz-themed dreams. And less about being in high school again.

[ozma914.livejournal.com]

Hey, those dreams never go away completely -- I graduated 28 years ago, and STILL get them.

[graycardinal]

And there's Button-Bright's Magic Umbrella, which works equally well in America and in Oz/other fairylands (per The Sea Fairies.

[vovat.livejournal.com]

And that, like the elixir, was of Arabian origins. Maybe in Baum's time, the Middle East was considered exotic enough to be almost a fairyland itself.

[freddylloyd.livejournal.com]

Baum used the term “real world” for California and the like in chapter 14 of Dorothy and the Wizard in Oz.

[vovat.livejournal.com]

Nice catch! Yes, it's there, but it seems to be distinguishing the underground lands from the ones above ground, rather than fairylands from mortal lands.