Mythological Multiculturalism
Dec. 13th, 2005 01:27 pmI've seen this many times in the past and usually avoided doing it, but I figure I might as well go ahead with it now. It IS the holiday season, after all. From
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Reply to this post, and I'll tell you one (or a lot of reasons) why I like/love/adore you. Then put this in your own journal, and spread the love.
This article on creating the fantastic beings for The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe contains some information on C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien's conflicting opinions on incoporating such creatures.
"Tolkien, who relied heavily on Norse mythology for Rings, thought a fantasy world worked best when its mythology was self-enclosed. Encountering figures from different traditions in the same story would break the spell of the fairy tale, Tolkien argued."
I think I'm somewhat more on Lewis' side in this respect. But then, my favorite fantasy series has so many different types of weird people and creatures as to make Narnia look downright tame by comparison. For that matter, it also incorporates Santa Claus. While I enjoyed the Lord of the Rings books, I never found it to be as much fun as Oz, Narnia, or (if I'm allowed to include a more recent fantasy series) Harry Potter.
I still haven't seen the Narnia movie yet. I'm hoping that maybe
bethje and I can go on Thursday, if nothing else comes up to get in the way.
Reply to this post, and I'll tell you one (or a lot of reasons) why I like/love/adore you. Then put this in your own journal, and spread the love.
This article on creating the fantastic beings for The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe contains some information on C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien's conflicting opinions on incoporating such creatures.
"Tolkien, who relied heavily on Norse mythology for Rings, thought a fantasy world worked best when its mythology was self-enclosed. Encountering figures from different traditions in the same story would break the spell of the fairy tale, Tolkien argued."
I think I'm somewhat more on Lewis' side in this respect. But then, my favorite fantasy series has so many different types of weird people and creatures as to make Narnia look downright tame by comparison. For that matter, it also incorporates Santa Claus. While I enjoyed the Lord of the Rings books, I never found it to be as much fun as Oz, Narnia, or (if I'm allowed to include a more recent fantasy series) Harry Potter.
I still haven't seen the Narnia movie yet. I'm hoping that maybe
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Date: 2005-12-13 09:39 pm (UTC)Anyway, you're also a nazi, because you would heckle Ann Coulter.
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Date: 2005-12-14 03:42 pm (UTC)Awww, I think the same of you. You're the most fun person I've ever known.
Anyway, you're also a nazi, because you would heckle Ann Coulter.
Yeah, I'd go to her rally and yell, "PLAY FREE BIRD!" :P
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Date: 2005-12-15 02:15 am (UTC)Ironically and yet completely unrelatedly, I read that just as "Free Bird" actually came on my computer... ooooo...
If I leave you tomorrow, would you still remember me?
Date: 2005-12-15 07:30 pm (UTC)Anyway, since I'm spreading the love, I'll say that you're cool because you share some of my interests (mostly in terms of books), and you're one of very few people I knew from college with whom I'm still in touch.
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Date: 2005-12-15 11:57 pm (UTC)Re: If I leave you tomorrow, would you still remember me?
Date: 2005-12-16 06:19 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-12-13 10:43 pm (UTC)I think there's a nice internal logic to Tolkien's vision, however how does he know his audience is going to know that any creatures contained therein are from different traditions? Perhaps it would be true of his very first audience, but surely not the young today who most likely think he invented such creatures.
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Date: 2005-12-14 04:06 pm (UTC)That's understandable. I will say that I like you for your enthusiasm and the interesting thoughts you have on interests that we share, but I don't require you to do this in your own journal. I might well avoid doing the kind of meme that tells people to reply to it, because hardly anyone ever does. Maybe my readership is made up of people who are resistant to being told what to do. {g}
Those sorts of things always seem to bring up the people on my friends list who never respond otherwise and usually it's really difficult thinking of things to say.
If all else fails, I guess you could always go with, "I think you're cool because you left me a comment." {g}
It's been a while since I've read anything by Tolkien. I might well want to read The Hobbit again, or try my luck at getting through The Silmarillion, but The Lord of the Rings was so long that I don't relish going through it again. I saw all three movies, though, and I remembered most of the events from them pretty well.
Perhaps it would be true of his very first audience, but surely not the young today who most likely think he invented such creatures.
The thing is, Tolkien's best creations might well be the ones he DID invent himself. There might have been some mythological basis for hobbits and Ents, for instance, but I think he came up with most of the details on them by himself. Tolkien seemed to have a particular love for his elves, but a fair number of readers seem to think they come across as stuck-up bastards. {g}
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Date: 2005-12-14 10:24 pm (UTC)I'm gonna post that in my LJ. I was gonna make all sorts of hilarious puns about 'spread'ing the love like one would put some delicious 'spread' on a sandwich, but then I said 'spread' too much in my head and the word lost all meaning.
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Date: 2005-12-15 07:32 pm (UTC)