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Happy Thanksgiving! Today is the day when we celebrate how a group of pilgrims broke away from a repressive church, and came to the New World to start an even more repressive church. In honor of this occasion, I give you Jack Chick's take on the holiday. I have to wonder what school this is where kids aren't allowed to say the word "Thanksgiving." Presumably the same one where teachers force students to dress up for Halloween, ask whether kids "believe in evolution" (and get really mad if they don't), and encourage animal sacrifice. [1] I kind of have to wonder why Chick is using Thanksgiving as the source for a tract, when it's not really a religious holiday. Yes, it's God to whom the Puritans were giving thanks in the first place, but the holiday is really a national one based on a more-or-less natural one (i.e., the celebration of the harvest). Of course, Chick can sometimes be just as much a nationalist as he is a fundamentalist, as when he bashes the United Nations, or talks about Islamic terrorism. I don't know whether that article was written by Chick or just approved by him, but the writer says, "The European nations, that refused to go with us to strike at terrorism's roots in Iraq and Afghanistan, are now staring it in the face in their own cities." The thing is, for all the intolerance and offensive stereotyping in the tracts, I can't recall any of them encouraging violence. In the Chick Tract Universe, violence is always something perpetrated by godless heathens against humble, pious, turn-the-other-cheek believers. Yet this article is blatantly pro-war, and hence pro-violence. I mean, I know Chick is a World War II veteran, but it still comes off as rather inconsistent. But then, opposing violence against individuals while supporting it against nations seems to be a pretty common attitude.

The book that [livejournal.com profile] bethje gave me for my birthday, Lies My Teacher Told Me, has a chapter on the myths surrounding Thanksgiving. It was pretty interesting, I thought. There was a mention of how Squanto knew English because he had lived in Europe. The thing is, when I was in elementary school, one of my teachers read us a book about Squanto that mentioned that. But when I asked about it in Social Studies class, that teacher hadn't heard of it. Maybe that was due to how I phrased the question, rather than the teacher's ignorance, though. I've been known to phrase questions poorly, after all.

Let's see. What else? Well, last night, Beth and I went out to eat at Red Lobster for the first time in a while. Unfortunately, we missed the Endless Shrimp, but I was full enough from the shrimp meal that I did get. In fact, I had to get a box for the leftover shrimp pasta. I'm not sure when I'll end up eating that. Probably tomorrow, since I have some kind of big holiday meal to eat today. {g} The restaurant wasn't very crowded when we went there, and the service actually ended up being a little too fast. That seems like an odd complaint, and it's certainly not something that I hold against the restaurant staff, but it's kind of annoying to get the main course when you haven't even started the appetizer.

After dinner, we listened to the commentaries for both Cry-Baby and the Family Guy movie. Neither of us had heard any Family Guy commentaries in the past, so it was kind of weird to find out that Brian's voice is basically Seth MacFarlane's regular speaking voice. Both movie commentaries had a fair amount to say about the weird and seemingly arbitrary standards held by the censors and ratings boards, like how you can only say "fuck" once in a PG-13 film. John Waters mentioned how there were two different edited-for-television versions of Cry-Baby, both of which took out certain material, but then added in scenes that had been deleted from the theatrical release. I've never seen Cry-Baby on TV, but I do remember seeing TV versions of Blazing Saddles and The Naked Gun where they did the same kind of thing. I wonder if they still do that nowadays.

By the way, I added a few new points to my review of the Wizard of Oz DVD set in this post. Probably nobody even read it in the first place, but just in case anyone did and wants to see the edits, I thought I should let people know.

dragon
DRAGON

You are the dragon. A dragon,
in western lore, is a giant lizard with wings.
It usually has the capability to breathe fire.
The dragon symbolizes immense power, physical
strength, and courage. The dragon has also been
a symbol of wisdom and of protection. Dragons
may also appear to be greedy as many a tale
depict them as keepers of vast hordes of
treasure.


Which mythical creature resides in your soul? (11 Results + Pictures)
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[1] That last tract makes a big deal out of how the family's house number is 742, right down to having it on the roof (in case someone needs to air-drop a package to them, perhaps?). I wonder if this is a reference to something. 742 is the Simpsons' house number, but would Chick know this? And even if he did, how is that relevant to this comic?

Date: 2005-11-24 06:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] revme.livejournal.com
742 adds up to 13, which is what I'm thinking the point of being all "WHOAAAA SHIT!!! THIRTEEEEEN MAAAAN!!!!" but it could also just be that it's supposed to be all creepy-futuristic or somethin'.

Also, weird -- new redesign of Chick's site! Wiggy!

Date: 2005-11-24 07:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vovat.livejournal.com
There are a lot of numbers in the Book of Revelation, so I was wondering if 742 had anything to do with any of those. I haven't had the chance to look yet, though.

Date: 2005-11-24 07:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] revme.livejournal.com
Hm -- perhaps! Perhaps it's the number of the guy a block and a half away from the beast?

Mom, beer and apple pie

Date: 2005-11-25 08:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yosef.livejournal.com
Happy Thanksgiving! Jack Chick sure knows Thanksgiving. I like how one of the gay guys is just so obsessed with being gay that he wants to kiss the other when everyone's yelling at the uncle. He also looks rather like Statler (old man in the balcony of the Muppets), but with an earring to denote homosexuality. Why would this family even get together for a formal dinner?

They're sick, right, Snookums?

Date: 2005-11-26 10:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vovat.livejournal.com
Even putting the religious and stereotypical stuff aside, it isn't entirely accurate. The pilgrims didn't "catch a boat" from Holland to America, but tried to settle in Holland and decided they didn't like it, so they set sail from Plymouth, England. That's how I remember it, anyway.

Re: Mom, beer and apple pie

Date: 2005-11-27 02:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] obsessical.livejournal.com
i noticed the same thing about the gay couple. because obviously, all gay people think about is gay sex, you know? I mean, I know I can't think about ANYTHING besides BREASTS. ALL THE TIME. :P

Re: Mom, beer and apple pie

Date: 2005-11-27 05:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vovat.livejournal.com
I mean, I know I can't think about ANYTHING besides BREASTS. ALL THE TIME.

Actually, I think that's a pretty accurate description of the mind of a straight man. {g}

Date: 2005-11-27 02:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] obsessical.livejournal.com
i love these comics! I like the halloween one the best, i think. Because I completely love the scene where the one girl says "Who are you talking about?" and the other girl says "Jesus, Buffy." Jeeesus, Buffy! and i also love the "do you love jesus? check yes or no."

Just. like. grade school.

Date: 2005-11-27 05:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vovat.livejournal.com
I love how there are so many people who have never even HEARD of Jesus. Another popular opinion of Chick-Universe Heathens is that they think Hell will be a big party. Never mind that I would imagine most non-Christians don't believe there IS a Hell.

I also love how Li'l Susy's grandfather has an eyepatch. Is he a pirate for Jesus?

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